there are ricks for obama clearly, but i think romney has got to have a huge, huge night, and obama would have to have a terrible night to actually move the needle. i don't think that's likely to happen. let's leave all these expectations game aside. let me pick up on one last point on the ryan thing. ryan saying the 47% was inarticulate, whatever the word was he used, that's the pot calling the kettle black. ryan has probably hurt the ticket much more so than the 47%. if you look at two states, florida and ohio, they were extremely close when ryan was picked as the nominee. now obama has considerable leads. you look at the reason why and seniors have gone from being in the romney camp into the obama camp and almost the entire explanation for that is that they do not like the ryan plan on medicare. so ryan has demonstrably hurt this ticket, turt it very badly in the swing states and particularly with seniors. >> congratulations to paul ryan. karen, julian, michael eric dyson who is off to see jay-z later, thank you all. >>> is the media really biased against mitt or is he simply a flawed